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(The most important information you might EVER read!!) "Redemption is the deliverence from the power of alien dominion and the enjoyment of the resultant freedom" --Zondervans Pictorial Encyclopedia of the Bible For Study Purposes Only. Not to be Taken as Legal Advice. Important Update: The following information has been RESPECTED FOR VALUE There is a NEW FORUM located Here! Click Here! to get there. This forum includes seperate study areas for Roger Elvick, Sam Kennedy, Winston Shrout, 1099 Process etc. Saddam Hussein : "The true believers cannot but condemn this act, not because it has been committed by "America could have further recourse to force, which could last some time ... and spread to News Commentator : Afghanistan's neighbour Iran was also prompt to condemn the strikes, with Foreign ministry Recently Written Dec. 2007 - Most Recent Update - Click Here!! Website Editor's note : VERY IMPORTANT!! (2-2-01) "Redemption" is a process and philosophy developed by Roger Elvick. over the last 10 years or so. As he was learning this process, he made mistakes, which landed him and several others in jail over different periods of time. This does not mean he is a criminal or was ever intending to break the law, as some people assume. He is a farmer, who was dealing with various forms of negotiable and non-negotiable instruments through his occupation, and he was also privy to knowledge of the Federal Reserve system in this country, and how it operates. In his search for truth, he uncovered the most important knowledge being kept from us, in relation to our present situation of economic bondage. This information and the importance of it could only be inspired by one source, and Roger's dedication to that source (God), and an inner quest for truth. Roger, himself, does not teach this process to anyone directly. Several people, who are dedicated to learning from him, have conversations with him on the phone, and information is then transcribed from these conversations. Also, Roger. is not in the business of selling information or "programs", so there are no packages of information from R. Someone who understands (or thinks they do) R's philosophy has published the "Interpretive Writings" available below. This is a very good analysis, but not complete or totally accurate. It is, though, the closest thing to a "study guide" available, so far. The very best way to learn this material is to study the "transcripts of the conversations". I, myself, have had several conversations with R, which have been recorded and will be available in transcript form here, soon. Without going through the problems yourself, you have to generalize, and R does not like to generalize, so alot of people cannot get the right information, because they have no real problem to deal with at the time. Well, I have had my share of problems recently, and fortunately, I was conversing with Roger during the whole episode while I was in court. That information is available now. (Added 6-28-01) Click Here!! When Roger spoke to the first people about this material, they "ran with it", without making sure they knew all the facts first. These folks were (wishes to remain anonymous), Rice McLeod, and Greg Williams (Qui Tam), I believe. This along with other Info. was first published in the "American's Bulletin" and instantly, it swept the country. The problem was, that R. only taught step A and B, but did not finish teaching anyone the rest of the steps. Immediately, people went out and started writing up "sight drafts" which several people have been indicted for already. Obviously, these people didn't know what they were doing, because they did not do what Roger does. These "Sight Drafts" were drawn on the Treasury on a mythical "Treasury Direct Account". This was taught by some of these initial people, but later, after people started getting into trouble, they were teaching NOT to do it, and that it was a bad idea. Currently, there are only a couple of people teaching "true redemption" according to R. These people DO NOT include Ron Lutz or Right Way Law. I have to say this here, but it is the truth. Also, Howard Griswold is NOT teaching "Redemption", and neither is the book "Cracking the Code" which was offered on this website a while back, and neither is Qui Tam. And neither is "the aware group" and their $900.00 package. Alot of people are learning about this information from the "American's Bulletin", but they have to remember, that Robert Kelly is doing his best job to make "all the information available", without trying to be partial to one person's methods or another's. Since R himself is not teaching this, there wouldn't be anything to publish if the other material was not floating around. Here are some of the most common misconceptions : 1. There is a Treasury Direct Account created by the Birth Certificate or SS# that has $1 Million dollars in it, that is being held against your strawman. (False) That was a complete mis-understanding by several people. 2. Accept the Birth Certificate for Value and Chargeback to the Secretary of the Treasury. (This was not necessary, and is no longer being utilized, to the best of my knowledge) 3. We must file a 1040 ES either once or quarterly, to "bankrupt" the strawman (debtor). (False) Barton Butz did some research into this, and now we are learning that quite possibly Barton and the IRS were talking about two different things entirely, or this is simply, "not necessary". Either way, currently, it is not being done. 4. Redemption can be mixed with other procedures if "Acceptance" doesn't seem to work. (False) Acceptance is working, they will hide it though. When you mix processes, you are showing them you really don't know what you are doing, because R's process is EXACTLY 180 Degrees off from what common law activists were previously doing. (The attitude is that "Everything is done for our benefit. If they are not acting for your benefit, they are in violation of their fiduciary duty. They are the Trustees in Bankruptcy"). ....And a number of other random misconceptions..too numerous to mention here by list. But, importantly, R. has stated that "there are alot of people here who are going to have to qualify their own positions. So we want to be careful about this, because this is the difference between general appearance and special appearance..... You can't just rely on a generalized idea. Eventually you are going to have to take a position called applying your principles". - And basically what he is saying (I believe) is that, you can't just rely on other people's information, you have to know some things and apply your beliefs, and they can't just be based on things you hear, that aren't proven, in some way, to you, personally. After having been through all of this myself, and having utilized the "redemption information", I can only tell you this : "It is very powerful". -- I have learned many things along the way. If someone were to ask me though, "Does it work?", the answer would have to be something like this, "Nothing is guaranteed, and every situation is different. "Will it work?" really should be phrased "will I make it work?" -- Because of this -- When something as powerful as this, does truly work, it would be very easy for everyone to learn this like a 'loophole' to avoid responsibility. To counter this, the system MUST make it LOOK LIKE it isn't working, regardless of what the truth is. Otherwise, when proven to work, you would see the floodgates come bursting open with people trying to leave Babylon. Who could blame them? At the same time, who could blame the "system" for trying to keep it's slaves on the plantation. (Don't wonder near the 'outside' zone, you are likely to get 'ideas' and realize that only a piece of paper is keeping you locked up). Learning and studying this information is the only thing that will teach you whether this is "real" or not. And you will decide for yourself. Then, nobody can convince you otherwise. On one phone conversation with R., he said "Just because this stuff works for me, doesn't mean it's automatically going to work for the next person". What he meant by that is : Everyone's different, and if you are going to go out and do things and get into trouble and think this will work to get you out, then think again.... That would be a "loophole". Only when you truly understand this information, (by making the love of Freedom, and not the love of Money, your #1 focus), then everything will fall into place, and you can go out and apply the "principles" in the world as a true "principal" of the account. This is how R lives day to day, and it is all done without the use of Federal Reserve Notes, or debt instruments of any kind. The entirety of it boils down to this : AND, one thing I would like to add here for all the critics of R and the "Redemption" process : Here are some items for consideration : And finally, the definition for the word "charge" from Black's Law 4th reads as follows : v. "To impose a burden, duty, obligation, or lien; to create a claim against property; to claim; to demand; to accuse; to instruct a jury on matters of law. To impose a tax, duty, or trust. - In Commercial transactions, to bill or invoice." & n. "An incumbrance, lien, or claim; a burden or load; an obligation or duty; a liability; an accusation" -- then a little further down, it says "Conversion of electrical energy into chemical energy within a cell or storage battery". -- (This would be our body) - And for the word "charges" -- "The expenses which have been incurred, or disbursements made, in connection with a contract, suit or business transaction. (So there you have it...for those with eyes to see, and ears to hear....) (Just added 2-15-01) - If you want to tell the difference between someone who understands "redemption" and someone who doesn't, then all you have to do is ask them...."Do you want to be charged?" (with a criminal offense) If they say "yes", then they probably understand what they are doing, and if they don't want to be charged, then they obviously don't understand "redemption" at all, and they are still into "dishonor", not "acceptance". According to R, you want to be charged, because then they have to give you the "property". What they usually do, is the attorney steals the charge, and is holding it "in bar", and not paying the taxes on it, or making the "tax return". When you do your acceptance, the attorney becomes the delinquent on the tax, and liable for the charges. (Just added 4-11-01) Lately, alot of people have been writing in asking questions such as "If there isn't anyone out there teaching this correctly, and everything I have been learning is somewhat incorrect, then what is correct and what is incorrect? How do I know the difference? -- Usually, the answer I give is this : "Apply the principles". - Which means, read the transcripts over and over AND the interpretive writings until most of your questions go away naturally by "applying the principles". - Then, you still may have questions left over, naturally. - So I have made up a page and asked a friend to respond to some "general questions" frequently asked - Click Here! Questions for Junkbond Joe Added - 12-10-01 - Next.... The reason, I believe, that "Redemption" is being fought by those in power is due to several reasons. Mostly, the MIS-understanding of what this is really all about and how it works, combined with a serious refusal to admit when one is wrong about something or has learned something wrong and has been applying it their whole life to the detriment of themselves and society. The "Private" (flesh and blood) will ALWAYS be SUPREME over the artificial corporation (UNITED STATES, DISNEYLAND, or any other ALL CAPS CORPORATION. But we have many people in power who have hidden behind the "corporate veil", and have been abusing their power over the private individual. It has become a "way of life" so much so, that to think or question for a moment even....that the private individual retains his status regardless....seems absurd to most in society. Yet, those same people question how the government can take all their rights away while they can't so much as complain. More and more, especially these days, since Sept. 11, people are asking themselves, "How can the government take this much power for themselves and do all these things?" and the answer lies in this statement : "The government can do whatever it wants to in the capacity of the CORPORATION, but it does not affect the private individual who knows how to retain his or her own privacy". -- This is something very difficult for the power structure to come to terms with, and who can blame them? After all these years of manipulating society to think we are all slaves, a few people have woken up to the fraud that has been perpetrated, and now they are scrambling to keep their ranks of ignorant. It is very similar to the Taliban wanting to keep hold of their soldiers when most of them are defecting over to the Northen Alliance. The reason : They see the new ORDER coming and they want to get in line instead of being left behind or left out. They see the benefits of change instead of holding onto the "old mentality". Ths was the inevidible consequence in Afghanistan as much as it is the inevidible consequence of "Redemption". "Redemption" once fully understood by a good portion of people will sweep the country and change everything as we know it today. I have full confidence in this. I know of several people who are utilizing these principles sucessfully in their life without much problem. The reason is because they understand what they are doing, and nobody gets "injured" or "damaged" in an way. This is the way of the "Jedi", who fully understands the talk they talk and the walk they walk. This is the very first and most important document to read in relation to "Redemption". - On May 23, 1933, Congressman Louis T. McFadden brought formal charges against the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve Bank system, The Comptroller of the Currency and the Secretary of United States Treasury for numerous criminal acts, including but not limited to, CONSPIRACY, FRAUD, UNLAWFUL CONVERSION, AND TREASON. - Click Here!! This is an elementary introduction to banking, interest and theft. Essential reading for beginners and the un-informed. I Want the Earth Plus 5% - Click Here! A Comprehensive Glossary of Redemption Related Terms - Absolutely Essential Study Material!! - NEW!! - 4-11-01 Roger Elvick Transcripts - (This stuff is the most important) Oct. 28, 2000 - My Case - (2nd Conversation W/ Roger) *Jan 5, 2001 - (2) - More Notes from Meeting W/ Roger UPDATED 3-13-03 Hello Everyone. I have provided some new study material for you folks out there who really need this info. If you want to stay on top of this info. (keep in mind that although this is VERY important to study, it is old material. If you do not study it though, you will be lost if you get the updated materials. To do this correctly, study persistantly. If you want to be up to date here it is. Far too many people think they can make a phone call, talk to someone who will help them, and all their problems will be solved. Wrong approach, think again. Go back to the drawing board and sit down and take the time to STUDY. The transcripts are THE best source. So, here are some "gems" for the tried and true. More Roger Elvick Transcripts - (WARNING!!! -- Some of the information contained here is OUTDATED and INCORRECT. It should be studied as information only, not advice of any kind. Currently, as of Dec. 2008, the process is not utilizing Sight Drafts, and any use of Bills of Exchange is not encouraged. Do your proper studies. They can both be used correctly and incorrectly. It is my understanding that they are not necessary. Study the Proper Use of Promissory Notes. Original Letters (Approx. 2000-2001) - Samples - Be Responsible, Learn First. Do Not File or Send Form Letters or You Admit You Are Not Yet Educated. (These are also a bit outdated) A.) Letter To Send With Acceptance B.) Letter to Send for Second Request with Request for Taxpayer ID Form W-9 C.) Bill of Exchange Letter D.) Treasury Letter E.) Accounting Instructions * Oct. 2000 - Transcript- ** From previous conversation you were going to use one of the forms we sent you. * March 1, 2001 - Transcript - ** Hi R, won't keep you just wanted to see how everything went with you yesterday with the grand jury. * March 9, 2001 - My Case - (3rd Conversation W/ Roger) Transcript Roger : You just let them know here, that civil litigation won't hold up because all commerce is criminal now. March 27, 2001 - Transcript from Conversation W/ Roger This section is to go on the sight draft in the memorandum area: * April 23, 2001 - Transcript - Do you have a minute….. (2 hours later) ** Just talked to someone and you told them to not use the bankruptcy forms just run an ad. * May 1, 2001 - Transcript- ** In response to your letter dated April 9th, addressed to this Mr. Kent Lewis, (he is the CEO of Bank of America,) * May 17, 2001- Transcript - Conversation with Roger Re Draft and Involuntary Bankruptcy **Hi Roger, I tried to pay some property taxes off last month with a draft and I put the bank route number, you know like you said. * June 18, 2001- Transcript - (Followup of my Case) * Hi Roger, how are you doing? Roger : Oh, o.k.. * Well let's see, I just finished up my whole court thing that was going on down in Van Nuys. June 21, 2001 - Transcript ** Hi, glad I caught you. I have a couple of question regarding someone who has been accepting everything for value on a law suite coming at them and yesterday they went to court and they put him in jail. * July 27, 2001 - Transcript - ** Hello… Oh I just got a notice and was going to fax it to you if you weren't in. It is that effective July 1, 2001 the Treasury in Washington is now a bank. * Aug. 7, 2001 - Transcript - (Conversation between P & Roger) Roger : This report is the straw man's report. The straw man that is staying with you. * August 2001 - G, W, & Roger - Transcript G: What do you do when the Bank returns your check and it is not stamped "closed?" * Aug. 7, 2001 - Transcript - **: Hi, I have a friend going to court in a couple of days on a 2 year old ticket that she accepted for value from the start. * Sept. 6, 2001 - Transcript - ** Oh Hi, did you just get in? Roger : Well no, I've been in for awhile and just got my shower and trying to get something to eat, but I can eat an talk. Oct. 8, 2001 - (C-1, C-2 and Roger) - Transcript C-1: Hi, do you have a minute to ta1k? R: Yeah - go ahead…. C-1: OK - C-2 is on the 1ine a1so. C-2: Hello - C-1: We've got his Dad in jail again… October 11, 2001 - Transcript ** Hi R* - How are you? (he sounded very tired) R* Good… had some thing happened here today, but go ahead first… October 22, 2001 - Transcript ** Hi, did you just get in? Is it okay to talk? R: Yeah we just got in but I can still talk… October 24, 2001 - Transcript ** Hi just a quick question about yesterday in court with R** and also with K*, they are putting them through a psychiatric evaluation. October 25, 2001 - Transcript ** Hi, It’s B* and R*j and we just wanted to share something that happened today with R*j if you have a minute. It’s kind of funny! Nov. 3, 2001 - Transcript R: This book is for my personal information… *A (jokingly) How do we know he’s not an IRS agent gathering information… November 3, 2001 - Transcript *** Hey R, how you doing? Are you busy? R: Well I’m busy, just trying to raise above all the paperwork. *** That’s a never ending condition!… Isn’t it? At least that’s how we feel. November 12, 2001 - Transcript ** Oh Hi, hope I’m not calling too late. R: No, no ** Good, I won’t keep you very long. I just wanted to touch base with you and let you know about the corporation. December 9, 2001 - Transcript *** Hey just thought I’d give a call and find out if there is anything planned on you coming out this way this year. January 17, 2002 - Transcript ** Glad I finally caught you… We were having R withdrawals (chuckling) R: Well that’s good… when you withdraw you have something to spend… (chuckling) January 28, 2001 (?) Could be 2002 - Transcript This conversation was a bit choppy in the beginning because of telephone connections. Call was originated to update R about the progress of paying property tax and the results and information learned from doing it. Feb 7, 2002 - Transcript ** Something came up with a guy that was in prison for about 14 months and he got this letter and it looks like OCWEN Federal Bank, and it has an account number and he doesn’t recognize the number. March 5, 2002 - Transcript - Conversation with Roger Elvick ** Good afternoon! It’s B* in LA. I just wanted to tell you what happened to R*’s trial and the outcome. March 9, 2002- Transcript ** Hi it’s B* and R*. We got this copy of the habeas corpus and wanted to run some things past you if you have a minute. March 29, 2002 - Transcript - *** N E W P R O C E D U R E *** ** Oh Hi, Welcome back!… did you have a good trip? R: Yeah…yeah…yeah March 31, 2002 - Transcript R*** all he needs to do is tell them he requests an appearance bond. Ok April 2, 2002 - Transcript ** Oh Hi, here I am twice in one week! Got two other totally different situations and I was wondering if what you told me last time could work for these to. April 15, 2002 - Transcript - RE: Involuntary Bankruptcy, Change of address. ** Hi, I think I’ve got some wonderful information. April 24, 2002 - Transcripts - Shared conversations from Canada Conversation going on between two males talking M1 in Canada and M2 in Japan… conversation Sample Paragraphs From Roger Elvick - Approx. 2002 - (Slightly Dated Material, but principles are still applicable) Steps for Redeeming - Roger Elvick - April 2002 - (Slightly Dated Material, but principles are still applicable.) When the Sheriff Comes.....What do you say? Here is the answer. May 2002 - Transcript RE: Involuntary Bankruptcy Dismissal June 11, 2002 - Redemption - Transcript - Not Roger, but according to his Theories and Teachings There are actually about 5 or more people on line. Bc (nick name initials) and *** are in California others are in Canada. June 20, 2002 - Transcript ** Hi, is it too late? R: No, no! Go ahead. ** Good. Are you up to your neck in alligators with all the people getting sentenced? June 22, 2002 - Transcript After the preliminaries, i.e. who I am, what has happened to me, what I've been doing about it, I explain where I am in my lawsuit. July 2, 2002 - Transcript ** Some small chit chat before I asked R if we could add another person into the call who had a problem because he was arrested and a family member bailed him out. July 16, 2002 - Transcript ** Hi, I hope you’re not all talked out… I tried you earlier and the line was busy for the past couple of hours… are you up to talking? July 30, 2002 - Transcript ** Hi, it’s B* in LA. You’re a tough one to catch up to…. Chuckling August 4, 2002 - Transcript ** Oh hi! I needed to ask you a couple of short questions and I hope I’m not catching you too late. August 9, 2002 - Transcript M: Is this R? R: Who’s calling? M: ** from ** I spoke with you a while back - probably about a month ago about the case that I have going here. Sept. 8, 2002 - Transcript ** Hi I just heard you were back and took a chance on reaching you. Sept. 9, 2002 W/ Roger Elvick and Gail Martin - Transcript On July 30, I filed an Ex Parte Order for Summary Judgment and an Ex Parte Summary Judgment. September 16, 2002 - Transcript ** Oh boy am I glad to catch you! I’m so glad to hear your voice… (chuckling) There is a lot of activity going on. Sept. 17, 2002 - Transcript 1st hour of a 2 hour conversation. Two men talking to Roger…. One regarding an Apt. bldg. that dishonored his acceptance and exchange and he is in the process of taking the bldg. Sept. 17, 2002 - Transcript - Part 2 K* We’ve got some rolling stock here… R: …. (some lost from tape) you offered back here cause it’s pre-paid. You can have my share of the stock.Sept. 23, 2002 - (Between Barbara and Gail - Not Roger) - Transcript “B”? B: Yes. ► I’m ►►►. I’ve communicated with you before via email. The reason I’m calling is because “O,” who has also communicated with you by email, has been arrested. September 25, 2002 - Transcript - Re Bankruptcy – Chapter 11 R: I called to let you know what I’m doing… ** Oh okay. Glad you called back cause I was in the shower your first call and you said just enough on my machine to put me in suspense October 6, 2002 - Transcript Quiet Title This conversation is regarding a mortgage company trying to sue on a Quiet Title action for paying the mortgage with a closed account. October 13, 2002 - Transcript Conversation w/ Roger and R* or ** which is easier to follow. Conversation slightly in progress when tape started. R: We’re on a 24 hour schedule. October 17, 2002 - Conference Call with Roger - Transcript There were only about 5 or 6 other interactive people so they will be identified as Female or F1, F2 or male will be M1 or M2 etc October 19, 2002 - Transcript In progress: **: ‘. . . just issue my check’ R: From my account. October 25, 2002 Conversation with Roger and N* or R and N - Transcript N: I’ve been reading your transcripts and of course I talked to you on the conference call and we’ve got an arraignment on Thurs. November 3, 2002 - Transcript ** Oh Hi, it’s B* in LA. Feel like talking or are you all talked out? Nov. 4, 2002 - Roger Elvick & G - Transcript R: If you have had any past court orders that demanded money (such as our bankruptcy four years ago against the IRS), you can go back after them and demand a check for that amount. Nov. 25, 2002 - Repossession of Property - By Roger Elvick - Kingswood Hospital December 2, 2002 - Transcript ** Good I caught you. R: Was that you who called a minute ago? Dec. 3, 2002 - (Notes) - If you are Arrested and Brought Before a Judge December 4, 2002 - Transcript R: Hello … ** Oh good you are there?… We have a gal in jail! She was taken into custody yesterday afternoon for writing checks on her closed account. December 11, 2002 - Transcript J* and B* calling Roger re the different court events from this week. J* regarding the purchase of 2 pickup trucks and them keeping the checks but taking the vehicles back by force. December 11, 2002 - (Goes with Above Transcript) - Request for Proof of Claim and Bar I.D. Number - Letter to Court December 13, 2002 - Transcript Few tidbit conversations before faxing on Dec. 12th. R: Okay I’ve got another form for you to file. That means the Tort Claim, Form 95. Quiet Title Action - Paying a Mortgage with a Private Check - What Happened in Court - Approx. 2002 Dec. 22, 2002 - Sample Letter - Notice of Dishonor / Request for Immediate Settlement Dec. 29, 2002 - Assessments : Presumed or Fact - Roger Elvick Dec. 2002 - If you are arrested and brought before the judge - Notes Jan. 4, 2003 - Civil Action on Diversity - Transcript ** Happy New Year! Just got back and got your messages. R: Yeah to you too!! After I talked to R* and K* I remembered you were going to be gone.Jan 12, 2003 - Roger Elvick Letter Jan. 15, 2003 - Short Note from Roger Elvick March 13, 2003 - Sample Letter Request for Settlement & Order to Show Cause May 6, 2003 - Transcript R: Hello ** Oh Hi! I hope I'm not waking you up. R: No... I've been on the phone all night. May 9, 2003 - Summary Judgment (necessity) - Transcript Oh yeah! What’s happening?
** Have some interesting things going on with our friend. Seems that removing his signature is making them want him now to sign for anything he gets from the Clerk of Court
I just spent the last couple hours visiting with JR and I shared your letter with him.
Oct. 10, 2007 - Letter to IRS - Roger Elvick
Interpretive Writings Of My Understandings Of Redemption. (Ver.2)(Written Anon. Not by this Website's Editor.) The Hierarchy of the Law & the Application of Commercial Law : The Private Process for the Sovereign? - Author Unknown - American's Bulletin - Nov. 1999 - (This article was written prior to REDEMPTION and applies primarily to Commercial Law) The Core of the Conflict - Redemption or Institutionalized Control and Servitude? - Dan Meador vs. Larry BeCraft - From American's Bulletin - Oct. 1999 Traffic "Win" in Oregon - From The American's Bulletin, May-June, 2000 - Click Here!! Traffic "Win" in Colorado - From American's Bulletin, May-June, 2000 - Click Here!! People as Products of Commerce - More Follow-up Articles "Is Your Child Human Capital?" by Cindy Weatherly Walmart and the Prison Industry - Howard Griswold Just Found!! - 73rd Congress, Sess I CH 1. March 9, 1933 - VERY IMPORTANT!!
(Warning : People are getting into trouble using the ("Sight Drafts" the wrong way. I don't recommend you use them until or unless you are thoroughly aware of what you are doing and the possible consequences of what may happen anyways. And even then, I don't "recommend" that anyone use them. If you "need money" or you want to get "free money", then this is not for you and you don't understand this information. Ordering the package WILL NOT make you a multi-millionaire or put ANY money in your pocket. This has nothing to do with "getting rich" or anything like that. Using a "Draft" is exactly the same as the "Acceptance", except that it is something which they understand to be an "instrument", unlike an "Acceptance". That is the only difference. It is exactly the same, though. But, the bigger, more important difference is that when one is tendered in acceptance of an offer, the vendor usually does not know what to do with it, and they attempt to deposit it like a check. It comes back and they say "your check bounced", but they do not realize that it is not a "check", and therefore it cannot be treated like one. Then they want you arrested because they think you attempted to defraud them. The problem is that people do not understand what they are doing, here, without going into great detail. |
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