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Situation with a guy who keeps getting IRS notices, accepting them but IRS is ignoring them and threatening to put a lien against his retirement funds. Inquired about number 8 paragraph from sample paragraphs, telling them the internal revenue you speak of is mine etc. before the audit, which was scheduled in about 10 days. Comment: If they are making a claim against him, make out a draft for the amount of the claim. Make the draft out to HIM (the guy requesting the audit) and the IRS. Put it in an envelope and give it too him at the opening of the audit. When he inquires what is this? Just ask him, "What does it say?" In doing this you are getting IRS to be your witness. Make sure you attach their offers (all correspondence) to the draft. That is the bonding. When you use the draft you are closing the escrow. When they pull out the draft and inquire…. "What is this check drawn on?" You ask them "Well what does it say?" Make them read it to you. Getting a witness Now if the IRS tries to bring other issues in on the audit and they don't have the files, you just conclude the meeting by saying, "Well we don't have anything to talk about." The purpose of this is to make the guy an eyewitness to what you are doing, thus making him an employee. You want to make sure the papers received by you (or receiver) are all stamped or marked with ACCEPTANCED FOR VALUE, EXEMPT FROM LEVY ETC. On the draft make sure you put A Treasury Direct Accrual in the memorandum. Any question they ask you about regarding the draft, make them read it. Example: What bank is this drawn on? Or there are no ABA numbers or any other questions …always reply with "Well what does it say?" If they get real persistent about their lack of understanding tell them…"Well just give it to the fiduciary". Or "Give it to the accountable fiduciary". Or "Where is your supervisor?" (If he does not understand this, then he is not competent to talk to). ** Note: Supervisor is Superman. They can do everything. They are the go between. You could request to the Supervisor that the instrument you provided them be placed with the United States Bankruptcy Trustee and request your remedy pursuant to HJR-192 immediately. Okay. I also have another person I'm trying to help who the IRS has been harassing for over 10 years and now they are taking his social security… All of it. He did accept everything for value up to now of anything he received from IRS and Social Security. He never did get to even draw on any of it. SS kept telling him he was going to get it and every month it would get the same letter thinking something was messed up with Social Security. Finally he called and the lady at the office said the IRS had seized the money. She told him that they put a claim on it. He did tell Social Security that the internal revenue is his internal revenue but this poor woman there was just a rumpkin and didn't know anything. She told him to write to the IRS. If they don't respond then you start accusing the people in that office (Social Security) for absconding or of complicity, her with others who have intercepted his funds and if he doesn't get the remedy as promised him from prior letters informing him of expecting funds. You can inform them that you are turning this over to the US Attorney to take this in for criminal prosecution for the offenders here in the Bankruptcy Court for US. He is going to bring the matter before the US Bankruptcy Trustee. This can be very intimidating to them. Another thing you can tell them… They can take it to the Bankruptcy Court to get you your remedy or you will take it to Bankruptcy by Involuntary Bankruptcy Petition. Involuntary Bankruptcy can put a halt on businesses in this position and they are not going to like that. You can tell the clerks they will be named as witnesses. Questions regarding names: When you file an UCC-1 that is not public information. That is a private contract. Whoever wants the information has to pay a fee to get information. They have to enter the contract personally, by paying the fee. … This is airtight because you can find out who is investigating. If you can't get an employee's name, always go for the supervisor until you get a full name then you can check with UCC - 3 (11 in some states). Sometimes you can get an employee number on some of these IRS guys and run a UCC 3 to see if he's registered to do business. That UCC 3 or 11 shows him as a debtor. A story was related to me that one guy ran a DMV record on someone and that someone was informed that his employer requested his driving record. In this, they recognized that as an employer/employee relationship. In other words --they are the debtors and you are the principal. A checkbook is a commercial vehicle. Do you use a check or do you send drafts? -- Oh I use drafts to order stuff or have them send it for my approval then keep it and send them a draft. Sometimes they will try to send them back with some excuse, but we need to just stay on them. We talked about the stock market and if it crashed. Comment was.. It doesn't matter because we can just adjust the shortfall with a draft. These commodity guys go strutting around as if they have something and they are going to find out the truth here soon. These people who think they made all this money on the stock market until the tax hits and they are in the game. These people can't even use the money because this set up is going to be setting the people up as the holders of the public debt. Question: I still have these tax liens that don't show on the records but I don’t know what else to do with them. I've not been contacted one way or another. I thought they were removed but the credit report said they are still there. Answer: Oh you can take the lien and make out a draft and attach it to the lien and deposit it in the bank. What you're doing is just putting his signature on that draft by the attachment. It is their money order. I could conceivably take the draft and plunk it down with the United States Trustee and request that he provides me a remedy. Just send it to the US Attorney and tell him to take this into the United States Bankruptcy trustee and instruct them to provide me with the remedy I'm seeking pursuant to HJR-192. This could get pretty detailed into the criminal charges I could request against the offenders, the fiduciaries, because they have the obligation and they should know better. **** People who are good at letters to write up a letter to let the US Bankruptcy Trustees know the damage being done through the fraud perpetrated violating public policy. Good Story. He got a call from a lady at the bank and informed him his payment on his credit card was delinquent. Oh gee, he responded. "I'm sorry about that but I didn't even realize that I had anything here for that." She responds, "Oh yes and if you'd like, just give me your bank account number and we can do an automatic payment". "No --No, you're not going to go into my bank" he tells her. I'm not going to pay this with a debt instrument." I'm going to do something else here like a money order." Well, she responded, then here is where you will need to mail it you can't fax a money order. Then she reminded him not to send cash. See they see the cash as a debt instrument. What they want to do is sell you all this insurance protection…road hazard things, health insurance, etc. He just tells them "yea just send it to me." He just lets them charge his credit card because it will all be paid with a draft. Some conversation about the US President not being assumed the Preferred Stockholder anymore. Talks about the credit and that they have to come to terms with claims with us before they can have exemptions. The national debt has to come down to zero. Some of the people in some of the clerical positions and even some people in higher positions are not putting this together. He responded that these people in power positions don't like this information being exposed but nature will take care of it. Energy has to return to the principal and that is us. * * * * * * * * * ** Success story that took place down south. The guy was being hassled by the state for not paying sales tax for his business. They had arrested him in October 2000 and the court ordered him to pay or close down his business. He didn't have a good understanding of the Redemption process so he took off for another state and worked for a while. When he came back in December, sure enough they were still waiting for him. They subpoenaed him to court. At that point he called me for more help. What he did: First he filed a UCC1 in Washington state because they will do it by fax. He needed a number so he could use a sight draft. He accepted all the documents he had received and filed them with the court with a letter requesting various items like copy of 1099 OID, 1099 INT, who is the fiduciary debtor and who is the fiduciary creditor (the versatile letter basically). And surprise, surprise; they didn't answer (they stopped the negotiation). He filed and took extra copies to court for the subpoena. After the tax attorney went on about how much this guy owed etc, the Judge turned to the business guy and asked for his statement (testimony). The guy said, "Do you have the paperwork I filed?" Judge responded that he did. He then said, "Well what does it say? Judge looked through it and asked him some other questions. The guy then told the judge that he had accepted everything for value but they stopped negotiation and didn't provide him with a remedy. The Judge commented to him about why he didn't pay them with money? He responded that would be against Public Policy. Judge then turned to attorney and said "You didn't provide him with remedy." Attorney ranted and went on about how this guy was in contempt of court and what the Judge should do. The judge then turned to the guy and said, "How would you like to handle this? The guy said that he had a 'money order' for that amount and he could give that to them. The guy then handed the bailiff the sight draft with all the offers attached to give to the Judge. The judge looked at it and handed it to the bailiff to hand to the attorney. The attorney started in it was not a real "Check" and it didn't even have a bank it was drawn on etc, etc. The Judge than said, "The case was closed". Now something is coming up where they want to put his body in jail for 10 days for contempt. That would be on the 22nd. We haven't figured out why they are keeping the door ajar on this. He felt the judge knew but pretended to be naïve. NOW WHAT CAN BE LEARNED FROM THIS? Will be discussed on March 3rd. Another situation regarding some people whom several years ago used warrants or drafts issued by LeRoy Schwietzer and were being charged with false documents or whatever. The one guy owned a legal book store and was quite learned in common law and went that route while another guy who had spoke to Roger went the magic question route. That guy was taken into custody until the next day and released while the other guy learned in common law had a trial, representing himself was sentenced to 4 years. What really happened? OPEN FOR DISCUSSION Very similar situation regarding another man who was to report for sentencing in Las Vegas and was being helped by Sam Davis. Sam was using some of the Commercial Lien process that he was learning from Hartford Van Dyke. It was then suggested that the guy going for sentencing should ask "What is it going to take to bring this account (accountable) to zero?" What is my remedy? Remember Public Policy. Weights and measures determined by the United States. All Federal Reserve notes are TAX - Debt Instruments. They can't discharge their duties a dollar for something, it has to be dollar for dollar. When we "accept" what they give us and it is not a negotiable instrument…then there is NO NEGOTIATION. When that happens then they have made a claim on us. In doing this you are giving them a Bill of Exchange. Fiction (municipalities, banks, etc) operates on a Fiscal Year (360 days) and we operate on a Calendar Year (365 days). Now when you give them back their presentment it has gone from Fiscal-Calendar-Fiscal. This has given them the tax obligation. You have made a "tax return". They gave you a bill and when you accept it and return it, it becomes a Treasury bill, because it is now eligible to be funded from the Treasury. When they take your body for funds they are in violation of Public Policy or HJR-192. That is why they try to get you to witness against yourself that there is money so they can perpetrate the fraud. When you try to compete with them for money you lose! DISCUSSION ****** "Order" of the court could be anything from a work order, purchase order, money order, court order for some performance. There might be an "Order" to act on a "Warrant". When a warrant is issued it is because they are looking for the "Order". SIGHT DRAFTS: Benefits - Once you've got the firm grip of closing of the escrow, then you see if someone is going to try to pry that escrow open they have to create some testimony somewhere to do it. They are going to have to prove where that interest is and if the fiduciaries have been instructed to bring that interest back to the principal of this account at that point there is no controversy--there is no contract with anybody else. Brings me to point about this lady who hired a rogue attorney who has been disbarred was helping her remove some tax liens. After this shyster found out all her assets he turned on her and decided he was going to now take her properties and any other assets he could get. He opened a court case and even though he was disbarred the judge always ruled for him. She accepted everything for value and the courts ignored it. She did go out of the true process in panic; however, she has hung in there pretty good as close as possible. She realized it is okay for them to charge the strawman, etc and now she accepts the court order. Now the problem about what amount for the draft because he has taken the properties, and now he is taking control, by court order of the tenants and the funds from the tenants. These courts are coming at her like an avalanche. Answer: Attorney creates money by writing checks against what he is holding. The court order needs to be accepted for value so she would own the order. She can take them into involuntary bankruptcy to liquid his assets until she gets satisfaction for the orders from the court she has accepted. The attorney has violated Public Policy and that is cause to bring in the US Attorney in the bankruptcy to prosecute that SOB. Judge is the auditor and summed up the account. Re - the sum of the amount of court order. Rogue attorney hired law firm… DISCUSSION ***** Tid Bits to know Banks and corporations do a quarterly report - every three months. Their books have to balance. What are they going to do with your draft --the one with the treasury direct accrual? We may not have to give them everything, only the clean clear offers from offeror to go to the bank or to the US Attorney. Some of these agencies don't know anything other than debt. Whenever you create a debt instrument you create a decay cycle. That is what interest is based on. Now the capitol has to decay to zero while the interest returns to the principal. The Fiction are not looking at the principal side they are only looking at the debt side. So the only thing they understand is debt. So it is a matter of fact they are criminally insane and on the road to destruction and they are taking everybody with them. That's what causes the decay cycle because all the commercial instruments do is reflect the decay cycle or the living cycle. The life cycle goal is when you have to put the value on the plants that are growing life again. It is just like a heart beat because that is where you have the two kinds of energy mixing. Now what happens is the capitol has to decay. Some think they can take this debt and do away with it at the stroke of a pen. That doesn't happen. What they've done is harness energy of the universe. And if you are not able to have it under control this is where the demon is moving about in the water looking for places to dwell. This could be your worse nightmare if you take on this task. If a lien is created by a Corporation you can attach it…. Never create one unless you have a license then it will be you who will be subject to fulfilling the offer. When you accept the offer, that is an attachment (don't forget to staple your acceptance to the offer). WHEN THEY DON'T GIVE YOU A NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENT AND YOU ACCEPT IT AND GIVE IT BACK, THEY HAVE SUSPENDED NEGOTIATIONS. NOW THAT INSTRUMENT THEY GAVE YOU IS A NON-NEGOTIABLE INSTRUMENT SO YOU ATTACH IT TO THE DRAFT AND RETURN IT TO THEM. THEY NOW ARE HOLDING A DELINQUENT TAX. |
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