** Hi, I hope you’re not all talked out… I tried you earlier and the line was busy for the past couple of hours… are you up to talking?
R: I had some calls that are all pretty heavy.  People are in some straights where they can’t shake loose.
** Well that is sort of one of my questions.  We have some confusion about the pleading guilty.  If you plead guilty prior to the appearance bond than you’re not separating your name from the body…
R: Yeah!  The thing is when you announce that you’re not in dispute of the facts, that’s really the same thing.   But the taking of the actual formal plea, yeah you need the bond but you see when they refuse the bond then you just accept the refusal.  “Okay I accept your refusal and I’ll use that refusal to charge the involuntary contract in bankruptcy.”
** Oh, Okay.  I knew we had to do something like that to separate the name, doing it for the name recognition and helping to get him charged.  Isn’t that the whole idea of the appearance?
R: Yeah!  And at that time you see when you tell them that, “I’ll accept your dishonor….
** To petition to the bankruptcy…
R: Well it’s not to petition the bankruptcy… no, no, cause see you’re not going to have nothing to do with the bankruptcy court.  You’re in court right now in the conscience.
** Oh Okay!
R: So what you’re telling them is, “Okay you refuse me the bond I accept your dishonor and I will use that dishonor to charge an involuntary contract in bankruptcy.”
** Okay involuntary contract in bankruptcy?
R: That’s what it is, because it is still and involuntary agreement.  “So now with that involuntary agreement, I will then enter a guilty plea…. To the facts in this case.”    They try to keep everything else going in the case so that you never even mention it.
** Oh remember the guy you spoke to with me last week, the one in New York?,  well they’re holding him under the disguise of psychiatric evaluation for 30 days.   I hope he is strong enough to hold his own and keep telling them that he does not dispute any of the charges or facts in the case.
That was a good call with your questions getting right to what was pertinent….
R: Well that’s good and if he can’t…. and we called that to question a time or two.   See he’s not in any worse shape doing what he did verse if he hadn’t done it.  If they were pressing him that hard they were going to do it any way.  With what’s going on across the country this seems to be almost standard, but I also think that what’s happening to the stock market is going to undo these characters.
** I sure hope so.  Wasn’t that interesting what happened today?  Have you heard about what happened today with the stock market going down 436 points on the DOW and then rallying back up to where it was only down 47 or something in that range….  Apparently this was the response to George Bush’s speech about holding the corporations accountable.  This is so phony and obvious that everything is manipulated.
R: Of course!
** I just don’t believe these people are going to run out there and say, “Wow George, powerful speech, here is all my retirement!”
R: No, No, No!  They’re just trying to stroke it to catch people’s attention.  I think this thing is finished and I’ve got people telling me that it’s going to go to 3000.  I knew that the 5000 was the point to what the market is worth.   So I suppose you would call it, that’s when it hits its balance.
** Right it has been so over inflated.  They were talking this morning that now the dollar is even in value with the euro dollar.  That’s one of the things these economists were saying that was good and will help trade.   Oh there are some other things being revealed.   Another interesting thing going on in the news is they are going to get 1 out of 25 to spy so that we’ll be protected from terrorism and that they want to get a location that will house thousands of people, like a tent city, because there will be more terrorism and they want a place set up before I think the date dead line was October.   Makes you wonder if they know all this to prepare why not use what they know to prevent.
R: chuckles… refugees!
** Right!  There is something about the sound of all of this has a foul odor.
R: Oh of course…. Terrorism.
** Here’s something else that’s going on.  Remember I was telling you about the Philippino people that I get such a kick out of because they learn this and they have the language barrier handicap so the government doesn’t know where they are learning this … from their country or here.  Anyway the FBI contacted this lady and wanted information and she said she would cooperate and wanted to know if he had 1099 OID and he said, “Yes we have it and you need to come in to the office and see it.”  She is very nervous now because we didn’t think they would have one.
R: What is this now?
** This is a lady who used a sight draft for her IRS lien and was contacted by the FBI.
R: … and he’s got a 1099 OID?
** Right, that’s what he told her.
R: If I were her I would just tell him, “You’re lying!  Since you tell lies I’m not going to have anything to do with you.”  (chuckling)
** Oh, okay.  I didn’t know exactly what they would be coming up with.  I thought they would have an attorney’s name in there or something.
R: The FBI doesn’t have any business of having a 1099.   He can investigate all he wants but that isn’t one of them.  See she could ask them over the phone… “Okay if you have a 1099 OID, how many parties are on it 2 or 3 and who are they?”
** Okay.  They are very good at being able to ask question.  M*, the guy who has the classes for his group also thought that it sounded like they were lying.  He felt like it was a bluff but she was going to be cooperative and they were going to take a tape recorder and everything.
R: She can just call.
** Okay, now if you can hold out I have another situation regarding the DMV and people not being able to get a drivers license… any theories on that?
R: Well they can get an ID card that looks almost the same as a driver license.  I know that’s what they have in California.
** Well these are people around the country but just taking California, which seems to be the worst that people get their license suspended for whatever reason.  Old traffic violations that they dishonored the “payment” or acceptance.   It’s getting to the remedy to be functional and productive without the fear of….  Should they try to go into the courts and be more aggressive about getting remedy and wanting closure.
R: Well probably.  And then start to approach it where you request the license and if they give you a reason, “you’re license is suspended and bla, bla, bla,…”  Then just start out asking, “Well who suspended it?” and we’ll need to tie up the performance bonds of these people.   In the event there is a refusal, tell them to provide you with the information of their insurance carrier.  Ask them for their Affidavit of Surety.
** Affidavit of Surety.  Okay good.  Then the other one has the pink slip and he tried to sell it and the DMV ended up putting the lien holder on the back of the pink slip because the car agencies apparently notified DMV that the payment was not good and if the car ownership was ever transferred to tag it.
R: Okay who is the lien holder?
** It was a leasing company but it is probably a bank…
R: So then you request the Affidavit of Surety.
** Of the bank?
R: Well of the person who signed for the bank and if it’s not then it’s whoever is at the DMV.  So you ask for their Affidavit of Surety and the information on who their bond carrier is.   Because you’re going to have to have two.  You’re going to have to have the Insurance Company who holds the limited liability and you’re also going to have to have the name of the person who is responsible for the deductible.  Those two have to go together before there can be a settlement.   And that’s what you’re going to tell these people.  Before settlement can be made you need both of those in evidence to settle the matter, otherwise you see the department and those individuals are subject to action being commenced on them.  I think I would bring action against them in the municipal court. ( in Calif they are all Superior Courts).  Just file a formal complaint on them.  Just tell them that in the event they fail on any point of this evidence a formal action will be filed against you in a local municipal or superior court.
** Okay.  Yeah but that’s where we run into the problem is all those judges are so darn crooked….
R: You don’t use a judge.  The judge can enter an order of dismissal if he wants but see that’s when you accept it and you use that as the involuntary bankruptcy in bond.  Because when you file and action against these people, see those municipal/superior courts have got all kinds of forms for you to use for almost anything you want to file for.  Cause I use to have the California municipal books.
** Oh R* dad got something from and attorney it is CCP 475, and R figured it out.  I’ll send it to you but if you take all the unnecessary words out the message is revealed.  I’ll send it to you.  An action can be reversed if the prior judgment is in error.    (CCP 475 AT END OF TRANSCRIPT)
R: You see you serve these papers upon the people and even if the judge comes in there and he wants to issue and order and one thing or another… that still does not stop the process.   Just keep moving on them.  That order doesn’t mean nothing.  Because you could also name the judge in the action if that’s the case.
** Okay.  Cause you know this lady that paid her property and got the reconveyance deed and receipt that the balance is zero.  Well they brought a quiet title action against her because she told them she was the owner and now they’re disputing it.   See they look for any little thing to find a dispute or reason to dispute.
R: Well what she ought to do is write and tell them she is sorry they misconstrued what she said and that she is NOT the owner of the property, she is the representative of the owner.  Have her send a little note and notarize it.
** Oh… okay.  Some one else told me, and I know you have a common law background but this is about qualifying your signature.  When you write:  My word is my bond and my hand is my seal that the judge cannot override that.  That is the same as I AM THAT I AM.  Have you heard that or do you know about that?
R: Okay.  No I didn’t know that.
** This fellow that I talk to that is very into studying all the different processes, more of a common law background though I would say.  Anyway he does like your concepts and shared that with me because he doesn’t feel this should be limited to Christian.
R: Well it’s probably all right but we’re not into going into the common law until after the Confession and Avoidance.  See because those things are all argumentative.   It’s fine to know the concept and there may be places to slam dunk them with it but right now we just want to …. Well if you take a look at government code and there is a California Civil Code and I know there is a California Code of Civil Procedure.  So I don’t remember which one but I know that one of them use to have all the forms in it.   They were at the end of every chapter or subchapter.
** Oh yes I remember seeing those and actually using those to prepare our cases.  We use to go to the law library and these books had loose leaflets and you could just run copies real easy.
R: Well the court has them also.
** Right the hard part is figuring out the correct form.
R: Well when you get the form you want because it states what you want to do and if you have an action that you want to take against these people, lets say like the DMV, get the name of the person just name them on the action and go back and serve them.  You see what we use to do is just attach the summary judgment right on back of the complaint.
** Okay.  I think that’s what this gal did on her quiet title action and the judge set it aside and allowing them to move forward.
R: Well then you accept the judge and name him in the action.  The thing is you can even put it in the pleadings that any person who moves adverse to the action without providing their Affidavit of Surety then will have identified himself or herself as a John Doe and then just put John Does 1 to 100.  Then he’ll name himself cause you’ll let them know how to identify themselves.
** Gads I’d have to re-think all this horror of the courts…  I use to do it and worked with a paralegal doing all this research.  I think my brain has removed all that.
R: Those are some of those things that when they operate those offices like they do, they can’t have too much of this kind of stuff against them or they’ll just be brought to a stand still.
** Oh yeah one time when I added the judge to my action cause he was such a creep and someone was nice enough to help him over a cliff.  First they said suicide and later they found out he was involved with some crooked insurance rackets.   I’m still wiping tears from that, but I think they are tears of joy!
R: Yeah! Yeah!
** Too bad about that guy…
R: Yeah I really get all busted up about that kind of justice.  Yeah he got his dues.
** Oh have you heard anything back on Colin Powell or do you even anticipate anything?
R: No… I’m so far behind on my stuff it isn’t even funny.  We’ve had so much activity around here.
** Another thing… this is a little off subject but I’m reading this book by Thomas Troward who lived back in the 1800’s and was a judge.  The book is called Bible Mystery and Bible Meaning.   Well it talks about Israel and what he said it was.  Like IS = feminine and RA = masculine and EL = universal being.  It was referred to then as physical, the psychic, and the spiritual or now we call it body, soul, and spirit.   It talks about how Jacob fought all night with the invisible angel and earned the name Israel because he had got his body, soul and spirit all in balance.  So in other words ISRAEL wasn’t a geographical location it was a being ness.  He also talks about Moses in the old testament and Jesus in the new but when Moses brought the people out of Egypt, the industry, into Israel, it was not a geographical location it was a liberating consciousness.  Took them out of the idolatry worship.
R: Hum hum… well it may not be.  See geographics would run horizontal then.  Maybe this was the raised version of everything.  You know like when you go into a courtroom and the bailiff says, “All rise” … well when you rise, you rise up to heaven.  Because the ones that are in heaven are Israel.  Because it’s the Israelites that are military.  See it’s the military precision that runs everything.
** Okay… so I’m somewhat confused.  I know once we talked to T* P* and he mentioned that Christ was government.   Is that because of the anointed…??
R: Here’s what happens, you see.  He is the spiritual idea of the crucible.   A crucible say like in a steel mill here is the furnace that boils out all the impurities and brings the steel forth.  That’s what they call the crucible.  I mean a crucible is a name for other things similar to that too.  So you see instead of a crucible then a crucifix.  Or crucified!  But that’s the spiritual idea of getting rid of all the corruption.
** So that would be the government?
R: Sure.
** We’ve been racking our brain on how that fits in but figured if T* P* said it he was echoing you and were thinking we haven’t heard that one from you yet.
R: Well the idea of Christ or Jesus on the cross…
** Right cause Jesus was the surety…
R: And so you see when he said, “It is finished.”  He’s dead but you see now he lives in the hearts and minds of those who confess him.  That being the crucifixion or the crucible.  The passing through the conscience for instance.
** The pass through.  So that’s where like you referred to the T and we’re operators of that being both sides so we’re also have to be the operators of what goes on in our heart and mind.
R: Sure.  See that’s why you’ve got to stay in good faith in your conscience cause it’s in the conscience where you cross over.  That’s how come in court you have a direct examination and cross examination.   That’s the 2 parts in your mind.  You have direct contact and indirect contact and of course you’re sub-conscience is the real you, and your sub-conscience is totally innocent.  It believes everything you tell it.   But if you tell it a falsehood then you see it can’t testify for you.
** Well sometimes don’t you have to sort of wrestle with the belief system.
R: You probably do.  I never thought of that but to get into focus this is why the cross over occurs in the conscience.  You see because all the charges are basically magnetic energy.  It’s the weak energy that’s present in every cell of your body…. And it is not solar energy.
** Okay magnet versus solar…
R: Yeah and you see magnet energy is an attractive force.  That attractive force is when it is in reverse of atomic fission that means nuclear fusion on it’s way back to the nucleus.  And you see I know that in the GED tests that science tests that people would take in the prison, I looked up in a glossary one time and they had a definition of a family… and it was nuclear.  See this is dealing with this energy that is present in every cell of your body and of course every atom.
** Which is actually more powerful than the solar energy…
R: Right because for one thing you see once the immune system is not been damaged, then it does not allow the commercial disease to enter.  They are the ones who are the centennials.  Not only that it is this kind of energy that would have to turn a switch on say like in an electro magnet… like the starter in a car.  The weak energy in the switch wires could not carry enough to the starter to roll the starter over.  So you see that has to give consent to the electro magnet here to close the circuit on a larger well then allow the larger to carry the current.
** Oh to pass it through…
R: Yeah.   So you see it’s the weak energy that controls the strong.
** Very good.  I remember you telling us about this once before but apparently it alluded me cause I guess I thought it was too scientific.  I couldn’t figure out how it fit into the bigger picture.
R: Well you know when you’re studying this it would be a good idea to get a hold of a science book, just your general science and get into the basic atoms.  When it starts to show you your basic atomic structure it shows then when atoms combine with each other to make new elements.  Well you see sometimes it talks about two covalent bonds and that shows how a couple of atoms share their electrons and then they bind together which makes a new element.   Well you see a lot of times when you see the post office will stamp one stamp over another or like a black stamp over a red one… sometimes they make it so close that it almost touches but it doesn’t.  See some of those, like the ones that overlap would have the balance of a covalent bond and that post office is telling here that this is the kind of bond that’s involved in this envelope and they can tell from the information on the outside of it.
** That’s so interesting!  I wonder if the post office actually sifts through and sorts which machine will cancel the postage?
R: They do when some of these come across their desk.   They take a look at it and they have a whole host of stamps and they’ll take certain stamps and stamp it appropriately.
** I mail stuff to this one guy and I don’t know if it is post office ineptness or something else because he feels like he’s being watched because of what he knows from a previous job training that he was privy to some pretty confidential information… anyway they don’t cancel the stamps when I send him information.  He gave me back about 6 envelopes to resend future information.
R: Hummm  I don’t know.
** Oh have you had a chance to talk to K* recently?
R: No.
** Well it seems that in the past week he was confronted twice by the police.  Once was on a traffic issue, they asked for his papers and license etc which he provided.  They took it and in a few minutes they brought it back and said something like thank you Mr. J*.   No ticket, no written warning nothing… later he was sleeping in his van and the cops knocked on the window and wanted to investigate him.  He gave them the information and a few minutes later the officer, after doing a check just handed him back his stuff…didn’t tell him, no you can’t sleep in your van, you can’t park here, none of that.  He didn’t even say anything to him when they handed him back his license and papers.  I got this 2nd hand so I could be missing something but he seems to attract the cops and he even painted his van from county orange to a real pretty blue.  Anyway he does have the thing going for him on the property taxes for those that have dishonored him… which brings me to another thing.  They are, in some states telling the people they can’t do anything on the property tax unless they provide a deed…
R: Fine.  Give them one.  Go get it from the county recorder.  I want to be on the mailing list.  See those will do the job.  Get the Supervisors name and then we’re going to have to start zeroing in on the supervisors getting their affidavit of surety for the deductible on their bond also the limited liability, the carrier, the information of the bond that they need to run their office.  We need to start working on this so that we get precise requests that don’t have any BS in them.  Those are the requests that we come down on these people for so that we can process and I think you’ve got people in your group that are perfectly capable.
** Oh I agree.  We have a tremendous amount of wisdom in the people that are studying your concepts.   Oh are you familiar with James Trafficant the Ohio congressman who just got found guilty of mingling funds or excessive donations or what ever… I’m watching him on TV as he is saying he’ll go to jail rather than admit to guilt when he is not guilty.  I was thinking this would be interesting if we could get to him and tell him what to do.  That would certainly make some changes you’d think.  Even though he’s a demoncrat he was very outspoken about the corruption in government and I think that is one of the reasons they targeted him.  He’s suppose to be sentenced the end of July.   If he plea guilty they’d have no way to go… His strawman is serving the government position right?
R: Well one thing, if someone is laying claim to those funds and saying that he doesn’t have authority to use them somebody is making a private claim on him and that’s where he needs to press the individual for an affidavit.  See this is where we’re falling down all over the place.  People come in and we assume there are contrary claims to ours.   But you see they never have an affidavit in there of anybody making a claim.
** That’s right.
R: So you see, not only that when they come in there with an affidavit that’s when you can start to bind their conscience.
** Now attorneys can’t even do affidavits, they have to do a declaration or get their client to write one.  The attorneys can only do hearsay from his client and that’s not very powerful.
R: Yeah! Yeah!  I know.  So you see they have to have an affidavit like when they came and grabbed some stuff from my place here there is not affidavit contrary to this.  But see I have enough other things to do and this is kind of frivolous and I’m more than glad to let Mother Nature settle those people.  Somebody is going to bite the bullet.  I think now just from some things done here I think they were done to try to provoke me into a process with them and they didn’t get it.  There is some things that told me that and I’m not going to get into that now.  So that’s one of the reasons I’m not doing anything.   We did this too when we were in prison and I there were public officials in their 50’s that were related farther out down the road they went to their happy hunting grounds.  They contacted for the aids and by golly if that’s the way they want to do it we’ll just see how many want to go.   I think when this stock market goes we’re going to start seeing more accountability.
**  I think we are also starting to make a difference.  We’ve got a lot of people sending in information to the Sec of State.  We finally figured out the assignee and lo and behold we found it on the form.  We were thinking it all had to be done in the body where we write that up.  We know we’re in apprenticeship and that’s fine.  You’ve been so helpful!!!
 
 
 
 

 ***  CCP 475 THAT WAS REFERRED TO IN THE CONVERSATION

Read the underlined all the way through and you will see it.

475.  The court must, in every stage of an action, disregard any error, improper ruling, instruction, or defect, in the pleadings or proceedings which, in the opinion of said court, does not affect the substantial rights of the parties.  No judgment, decision, or decree shall be reversed or affected by reason of any error, ruling, instruction, or defect, unless it shall appear from the record that such error, ruling, instruction, or defect was prejudicial, and also that by reason of such error, ruling, instruction, or defect, the said party complaining or appealing sustained and suffered substantial injury, and that a different result would have been probable if such error, ruling, instruction, or defect had not occurred or existed.  There shall be no presumption that error is prejudicial, or that injury was done if error is shown.

Here is the underlined version put together.

No judgment shall be reversed by reason of any error, unless it shall appear from the record that such error, was prejudicial, and also that by reason of such error, the said party complaining sustained and suffered substantial injury, and that a different result would have been probable if such error had not occurred or existed.

Here is what it is saying.

No offer shall be adjusted if there is an error, unless the error was prior, and if the complaining person suffered injury and that a different outcome would have taken place if the offer never happened.

not sending the check or acknowledging settlement was the prior choice = offer = prejudice.

So if they choose to not send me a check, keep the account open, and do not acknowledge settlement in closure, the evidence must be bound and returned in closure to correct the error.  The error is the fact of the open account because that is like an open wound, and if they never made the offer a different result would have taken place if such error had not occurred or existed.

So the fact that the offer exists, that is the injury needing acceptance, to bind the fact of injury, and then returning to correct the error.